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Left / Right Brain?

  • Aug. 24th, 2008 at 1:48 PM
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[livejournal.com profile] cupidsbow and I are wondering about my last post and whether we have a predisposition to think of characters' relative positions based on left/right brain dominance. So! A highly scientific poll!

I can't post all the data for the questions in the poll itself (because LJ is cool like that) so I'm afraid you'll have to scroll up and down a bit.

First, look at this lovely ballerina:

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Decide for yourself if she's moving clockwise or counter-clockwise, then scroll down and answer the first question.

Now, read the following excerpt (#1), trying to picture the scene as vividly as you can from Rodney's point of view:

#1:

“Shut up, shut up, shut *up*!” Rodney groaned, flailing his arm haphazardly again. This time he made contact with Sheppard’s arm but didn’t manage to move it. Exhaustion soaking down to his very bones, Rodney rolled over on his side and propped himself up on one elbow so he could glare balefully at Sheppard’s open snoring mouth. “Oh my god, shut up,” Rodney slurred, torn between weariness and the pressing need to kill Sheppard. “Shut up?” Rodney attempted pathetically, half sobbing, then went about the business of levering Sheppard onto his side.

Sheppard snorted awake just as Rodney succeeded. “What?” he sniped, cutting an accusatory look Rodney’s way.

“Your death rattle snore is capable of penetrating the hull of an Ancient warship,” Rodney said. “And you’re drilling a hole through my skull with every god awful breath.”

“Huh,” said John, drowsy and completely unrepentant. He punched his pillow and settled down again, undoing all Rodney’s good work. “Go back to sleep.”

“Not on your back, you freak of nature!” Rodney bellowed, pummeling Sheppard’s stupid head. “I’m *this close* to spooning you just to make sure you don’t roll over again.”

Sheppard sleepily grunted and rolled onto his side. “Least I don’t fart in my sleep,” he said, sounding not a little grumpy, probably because of the spooning threat.


Go and answer the second question.

Done? Good. Now read this excerpt (#2), again trying to imagine the scene in as detailed a way as possible, this time from John's perspective:

#2:

John woke in the darkness and blinked at the digital clock, wondering what made him open his eyes at three twenty. With a groan, he rolled over, intending to curl into Rodney’s warmth and go right back to sleep — but Rodney was gone. John opened his eyes again and became aware of the line of light under the door.

Rodney was sitting with his back to the wall in the hallway, bare feet pressed into the carpet pile, hair sticking up on one side from falling asleep with sweaty post-coital hair. He was holding a sheaf of photocopied papers in one hand and had Dalton tucked in the crook of his other arm.

“Thought you didn’t need to hold him?” asked John, rubbing the heel of one hand against his right eye, squinting in the dim light of the hallway.

“I heard him wake up,” offered Rodney, not looking up from his papers. “Jeannie said he was fed and changed and just wanted someone to hold him. So I said I could do that, had to get some work done anyway.” He smirked. “You should have seen her: she was staggering around like Zelenka after two Athosian beers.”

“Ha,” said John, though it sounded less triumphant as he said it halfway through a yawn. He made his way to Rodney’s side, staggering a little himself, and dropped down to the floor, nestling groggily into Rodney’s heat.


Great, answer the third question.

One more, just for fun (#3):

#3:
You are a lab tech on Atlantis. As you round the corner of a corridor, heading back towards your lab, you encounter John and Rodney coming the other way, hurrying all tough and business-like for the gateroom where there is obviously some serious shit going down, judging by the looks on their faces. As they approach you, which of the men is on your left?

Now answer the fourth question.

[Poll #1247537]

In case you're interested:

For the ballerina image (from this article), counter-clockwise is supposed to be the commonest direction for people to see the ballerina moving. The direction you see is apparently linked to your brain hemisphere dominance:

"If [you see the dancer moving] clockwise, then you use more of the right side of the brain and vice versa."

(I cannot make the woman go anything other than clockwise, so help me god. I'm a confirmed artist.)

And, in my (apparently right-brained) opinion, as the writer of the above excerpts, I totally pictured:

#1: Rodney is lying on the left side of the bed and John is on the right.

#2: They are sitting on the left-hand side of the hallway (John has emerged from a door to their right) and John is sitting on Rodney's right.

#3: John, John, totally John. So, yep, Rodney's STILL on the left. Weird.

From which we can conclude: that I seem to feel like Rodney's a left-hand kind of guy? Or John is Rodney's right hand man? I don't know, clearly my brain dominance theory doesn't work for me, anyway. What about you?

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[identity profile] margueritem.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 24th, 2008 08:05 pm (UTC)
Excerpt number one is not there! :(
[identity profile] toomuchplor.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 24th, 2008 08:06 pm (UTC)
Haha, just noticed that. Let's try again, shall we? Duh.
[identity profile] margueritem.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 24th, 2008 08:11 pm (UTC)
Erm, excerpt three, if I'm going on the left side of the corridor, then shouldn't the *wall* be on my left? :(
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[identity profile] selfinduced.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 24th, 2008 08:14 pm (UTC)
i thought of that too, but then realized that john would be leftmost if you were looking at the two of them, before you became leftmost and closest to the wall. :)
[identity profile] margueritem.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 24th, 2008 08:15 pm (UTC)
Ah! okay, then. yeah, I see John as being left and Rodney right, too.
[identity profile] toomuchplor.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 24th, 2008 08:16 pm (UTC)
Ahaha, clearly I need to rephrase this. See, this is why writers don't get this specific. It's confusing!
[identity profile] margueritem.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 24th, 2008 08:23 pm (UTC)
All this talk of left and right had me confused.

I read your notes (as the author) and my first reaction was, "Oh, I got it the other way around." And then re-read and no, we got the same view of things. I just got confused on my left (as a character) as opposed to from the reader/viewer's pov.
[identity profile] toomuchplor.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 24th, 2008 08:15 pm (UTC)
Well, presumably either John or Rodney is closer to that wall, is what I meant. *g*
[identity profile] margueritem.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 24th, 2008 08:16 pm (UTC)
Ah! Well then, John is on the left! Left!
[identity profile] toomuchplor.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 24th, 2008 08:19 pm (UTC)
This is actually kind of a less definitive question for me, anyway, because unlike the two written excerpts, we will all be drawing on the same banked images from episodes of exactly this kind of action. Maybe we are likely to subconsciously choose the one that best matches our memories from the show?
[identity profile] margueritem.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 24th, 2008 08:21 pm (UTC)
That's what I thought. I tried not to consciously think of episodes, but it might be that John is often to Rodney's right.

Although, when they talk about their plan for the Wraith thing (the one where Rodney pats John), John is on his left.
[identity profile] margueritem.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 24th, 2008 08:18 pm (UTC)
The ballerina: Okay, so someone with more knowledge about ballet might say I'm wrong, but since her right leg is up, she can *only* go in the clockwise direction. It makes no sense for her to go counter-clockwise.

(Brought to you by 3 years of ballet as a girl and as an adult)
[identity profile] margueritem.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 24th, 2008 08:31 pm (UTC)
Of maybe interest? Excerpt number 2, I imagined John rolling towards his left (pov of viewer, John is on the left side of the bed and Rodney on the right side - just like in excerpt number 1)), but then you mentioned a door and to me (to the left of Rodney) there is only a wall. So then I had to readjust my view and John rolled to his right and then saw the light, goes through the door (on Rodney's right) and sits beside him, Rodney on his left.

I couldn't make the bed do a 180 degrees move (i.e. John would be sleeping between the wall and Rodney). I think my heart is going to hurt if I think about this anymore.
[identity profile] toomuchplor.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 24th, 2008 08:34 pm (UTC)
Haha... I have a weird habit, as a writer, of subconsciously writing non-canon environments as actual homes of people I know. John and Rodney are actually sleeping in a strange version of my parents' house in this fic, and in Theory of Acquired Characters, John is living in a version of a house I rented for three years. So while, to me, the room layout is very obvious, I can understand how readers wouldn't find it as neat and straightforward unless they happen to have stayed in my parents' guest room.
[identity profile] margueritem.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 24th, 2008 08:39 pm (UTC)
Ah! I wonder if anyone else had the same problem reading that excerpt.

I just thought of the fact that John's room, his bed is in the direction I can't imagine it to be (according to the last episode). I can't explain it. The foot of the bed should be the other way around for me! O_O

Rodney's bed (from that episode where Cadman is in his head) should for me be moved 90 degrees in a counterclockwise direction. I think. O_O
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[identity profile] utterfrivolity.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 24th, 2008 10:45 pm (UTC)
I did the same thing; I pictured John rolling on his left side, but then when he opened his eyes and was looking at a door, I switched it so he had rolled to his right. And then the door is on Rodney's right, of course, so John sits with him to his left.
[identity profile] toomuchplor.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 24th, 2008 08:32 pm (UTC)
I am not the person to answer, even with my own 3 years of ballet as a kid -- but I can tell you that my brother the mechanical engineer (who is about as typically left-brained as they get) had the opposite reaction. He cannot see the woman going any way but counter-clockwise, period. And our other brother (who is ambidextrous) says she keeps changing direction. So maybe there's something to it?
[identity profile] margueritem.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 24th, 2008 08:36 pm (UTC)
My dad (who is not ambidextrous) says she keeps changing direction! This is freaking me out. O_O
[identity profile] margueritem.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 24th, 2008 08:48 pm (UTC)
argh, now I was able to make her change direction. O_O
[identity profile] kirashapedgirl.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 25th, 2008 05:14 am (UTC)
If you concentrate on her shadow, you can get her to go the other way. It took a bit of concentration, but after my roommate pointed it out to me, I was able to see it.
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[identity profile] selfinduced.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 24th, 2008 08:19 pm (UTC)
i misread the first question, and thought you were asking the same question in #2 and 3. i actually imagined John lying to the left side of the bed.

i feel like i'm basing my opinions on what i see more often on tv. when someone is waking up, it's usually the camera zooming in on the left side of the bed. also, when we see Rodney and John walk down corridors, i remember John being on the left. *looks around for an icon that proves this*
[identity profile] toomuchplor.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 24th, 2008 08:22 pm (UTC)
also, when we see Rodney and John walk down corridors, i remember John being on the left.

Yes, I was just remarking on that up above to [livejournal.com profile] margueritem! It's probably more difficult to suss that one out in terms of TV vs. imagination. I think it's easier with the first two because I'm asking you to be inside the perspective of one of the characters, which isn't super common in most TV.
[identity profile] iphi1.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 24th, 2008 08:23 pm (UTC)
Interesting experiment!

I also see the woman clockwise.
My answers are:
1) Right
2) Left
3) John

So what does this mean?
[identity profile] toomuchplor.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 24th, 2008 08:30 pm (UTC)
I have no idea! Apparently we're all right-brain dominant in fandom, though, or at least ambidextrous.
[identity profile] iphi1.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 24th, 2008 08:33 pm (UTC)
Apparently, right-brain dominant means "fantasy based" so most of fandom seeing the woman move clockwise makes sense I guess.
[identity profile] toomuchplor.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 24th, 2008 08:35 pm (UTC)
Yes, I don't mind fantasizing about being the lab tech in the way of all that pretty McSheppiness. *g*
[identity profile] siegeofangels.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 24th, 2008 08:25 pm (UTC)
I think my answers to the first two excerpts have to do with handedness--if Rodney is right-handed, he will flail with his right hand (ergo John is on his right) and he will hold papers in his right hand and the baby with his left (John sits down on the side without the baby, because if the baby were between himself and Rodney, he would have mentioned it).
[identity profile] toomuchplor.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 24th, 2008 08:29 pm (UTC)
So interesting, isn't it? See, I totally see Rodney flailing left-handed because he's rolled onto his right side to smack Sheppard. I'm not sure about the baby, if that figured into it for me. Actually, it was probably that I knew what the hallway looked like in my mind and that Rodney would be sitting on the expanse of wall on the left, that John would have emerged from the right, and that I wanted John to see the baby's face, ergo: baby in left arm. Ah, the complexities of writerly thinking. Haha...
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[personal profile] semielliptical wrote:
Aug. 24th, 2008 08:49 pm (UTC)
For question #2, I would have guessed I put Rodney on John's left because it's from his pov, so I "see" him on the same side of the bed I usually sleep on. But it's interesting to see that most people gave the same answer.
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[identity profile] yavannauk.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 24th, 2008 09:20 pm (UTC)
Huh. From the description in the article I'd say I'm more a left brain person, but the ballerina resolutely goes clockwise for me!
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[personal profile] aurora wrote:
Aug. 24th, 2008 09:52 pm (UTC)
(I cannot make the woman go anything other than clockwise, so help me god. I'm a confirmed artist.)
It takes me AGES to make her turn the other way.

John, John, totally John. So, yep, Rodney's STILL on the left. Weird.
For some reason, I think that on the show they're always walking down corridors like that? Or maybe I'm delusional. (But I just checked my icons, and A LOT of them have Rodney on (my) right and John on (my) left).
[identity profile] porntestpilot.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 24th, 2008 09:54 pm (UTC)
John, John, totally John. So, yep, Rodney's STILL on the left. Weird.
For some reason, I think that on the show they're always walking down corridors like that? Or maybe I'm delusional. (But I just checked my icons, and A LOT of them have Rodney on (my) right and John on (my) left).

What she said!
[identity profile] porntestpilot.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 24th, 2008 09:53 pm (UTC)
I can make the picture switch, but I have to focus on the effort.

This was a really interesting exercise!
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[identity profile] vickita.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 24th, 2008 10:10 pm (UTC)
The ballerina thing fascinates me. I can make her change direction by looking away, but only in certain prescribed ways. If she's going CW, and I look down and to the left, she will start going CCW, and if she's going CCW, and I look down and to the right, she starts going CW.
[identity profile] teenygozer.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 24th, 2008 10:54 pm (UTC)
EEK! I was looking at the ballerina (after posting my answers), going, "Yep, counter-clockwise," when suddenly the bitch started spinning clockwise!!! I wasn't looking away, I was staring right at her!

What does that mean? Brain hemorrhage? Seriously, it was pretty disconcerting.
[identity profile] clairshadows.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 26th, 2008 01:22 pm (UTC)
The same happened to me exactly the same and I had this moment of wait *was* it always clockwise and I just got it wrong. I can make her change direction by looking along the line of her shoulders or her waist and it's like this freaky unfolding in my head so yes very disconcerting.
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[identity profile] lim.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 25th, 2008 12:35 am (UTC)
Embarassingly enough, I can't tell my left from my right (can't really rotate shapes in 3d either), so I'm trying to figure out if I even gave the right answers. ::painstakingly walks John and Rodders down a corridor::
[identity profile] nerowill.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 25th, 2008 12:40 am (UTC)
Huh, as soon as I was convinced she was going clockwise, she stopped and changed directions... makes my eyes hurt!

My answer to questions 2 and 3 were completely related to the fact that #2 was in Rodney's POV and I sleep on the right side of the bed, so imagined him in my place. The answer to #3 was because of where the door to my bedroom is, etc. Maybe this just means I'm self-centered... :)
[identity profile] catmoran.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 25th, 2008 01:26 am (UTC)
Possibly of some significance: in both I pictured the POV character to the right of the non-POV character.

And I sleep on the right side of my bed.
[identity profile] cupidsbow.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 25th, 2008 05:15 am (UTC)
Today, I see the ballerina going clockwise, and I saw the second and third scenes much as you intended. Not the first though.

About a third of the time, I see the ballerina go the other way. It depends on what I've been doing right before I look at it. I've had the mind-breaking experience of seeing it go anti-clockwise, looking away for a moment, and when I looked back it was clockwise. O_o

So, in conclusion: I am weird. But also: you seem to be onto something.
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[personal profile] ariadne83 wrote:
Aug. 25th, 2008 05:20 am (UTC)
LOL ditto. John is *so* the right-hand man
[identity profile] caro-di-tutti.livejournal.com wrote:
Aug. 26th, 2008 10:00 pm (UTC)
i have stared at that damn Ballerina for 9min and 23 seconds now and i can't make her go anything other than clock-wise.

how do i make her go the other way !!!! damn her i really just can't see how she could be doing anything other than going clock-wise.

goes back to stare!

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