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  • Jan. 23rd, 2008 at 1:32 PM
toomuchplor: (it's not cute being this easy)
This was going to be a response to [livejournal.com profile] amberlynne's comment but it grew out of control. On the topic of subverting fannish tropes (sort of) and John the non-Sudoku-Master:

As I told [livejournal.com profile] eleveninches once, what I really want to write is the one where John isn't just weirdly good at manipulating Ancient technology -- he's actually *trans-specied*. He's an Ancient trapped in a stupid human body! He's tragically genetically queered! He longs for gray jumpsuits and shifty scientific ethics and the chance to play The Sims with whole human civilizations!

Or, hey! What about the one where John SUCKS at activating a particular Ancient artifact? Like, everyone with the ATA gene can do it except him! And it's an Ancient bean grinder or something so it doesn't *matter* but it's making him batshit insane that he CAN'T DO IT. And he carries it around in his pocket and ducks into supply closets and tries with all his ATA might to get it whirring and the device *ignores* him, the blatant hussy of an Ancient thing, and he's all wounded and bewildered and Rodney has to comfort him with sex. And more Ancient toys.

ETA: Or! OR!

The one where John TRAVELS BACK IN TIME to Ancient Atlantis and discovers so many interesting truths, like:

1) The entire expedition has been bunking up in the children's boarding school part of the city, which is why all their beds are 2 inches long.

2) John is actually not that Ancient and they all think he's kind of adorably dumb and ignorant and they treat him like a kid and muss his hair.

3) The puddle jumpers are actually not fighter shuttles. They are, in fact, Ancient yellow school buses. The cool fighter shuttles are over in the east wing where the expedition hasn't looked yet.

Other fun Ancient facts? Come on, it'd be AWESOME.

Comments

[identity profile] catmoran.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 23rd, 2008 08:43 pm (UTC)
The puddle jumpers are actually not fighter shuttles. They are, in fact, Ancient yellow school buses.

Once you point it out, it's so obvious. Well, maybe not school buses, but city buses aren't much better. They just aren't yellow.
[identity profile] toomuchplor.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 23rd, 2008 08:55 pm (UTC)
*nods* The jumpers are *so* public transportation. They're only equipped with shields and drones because hello, they were a people at war and stuff. But mostly the jumpers flew people to other planets at regular intervals, piloted by grumpy dim-witted civil servants.
[identity profile] eleveninches.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 23rd, 2008 08:50 pm (UTC)
I long for the story in your ETA to be written. Long!
[identity profile] toomuchplor.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 23rd, 2008 08:58 pm (UTC)
Hmm, I'm thinking that *you* should write it. You could do it more justice than I. You do bewildered!John SO well.

Ahaha, I'm thinking that Elizabeth/Sam's office should have some awful usage in Ancient times. Like, it's the place where they did Ancient strip searches or maybe it was an Ancient gift shoppe or it was where the Ancients left their pet humans when they went into a restaurant (now the armory or the locker room or something) for Ancient dinner hour.
[identity profile] toomuchplor.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 23rd, 2008 09:01 pm (UTC)
Actually, pet humans -- that alone is enough to make me *so* happy at the thought of this story. John wouldn't even *know* that they were making him a pet -- they were just being super nice and concerned about his comfort! -- and then someone would try to clip a leash on John's neck! And someone would coo in Ancient, "Look at his fur! Aw, he looks like a little monkey!" And then he'd have to go to the Ancient vet ("Just a minor check-up," John's owner would say, petting his hair) to get fixed, because it's not like the Ancients want to breed him, can't have too many stray human pups wandering around the back alleys of the City, poking their little paws into Ancient garbage cans and making trouble for everyone.
[identity profile] teenygozer.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 23rd, 2008 09:08 pm (UTC)
John would love being treated like a kid! He would tease and flirt right back. But I do not think he'd be down with the neutering. He's funny that way. Although I suppose the Ancients would do it in some sort of futuristic way as opposed to the grossness of today's hack-&-slash surgery, so he might not even realize he'd been fixed, just that some cute lab tech had waved a wand over him.

"You did whu-?! GODDAMIT! YOU CAN'T FIX ME! I WASN'T EVEN BROKEN!"
[identity profile] toomuchplor.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 23rd, 2008 09:15 pm (UTC)
And the Ancient tech would scritch John's hairy belly and say to John's owner, "It'll take a few days, but he'll probably stop with the --" making a rude hand gesture -- "pretty soon."

And John will go all blushy and outraged because he NEVER -- not IN PUBLIC -- he's not a dog licking himself for the love of -- and then he realizes that to Ancient sensibilities, maybe a human masturbating in the privac of his quarters is just as distasteful and semi-comic as a golden retriever humping a house guest's leg.

What with the glowy non-corporeal sex and all.
[identity profile] teenygozer.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 23rd, 2008 09:47 pm (UTC)
What with the glowy non-corporeal sex and all.

...the Ancient version of a rude hand gesture is probably flicking a lamp on and off a few times while wiggling your fingers suggestively.

The time-traveling AU I've never seen written (but want to) is the one where John, Elizabeth, and Zelenka all survive the crashed time ship in "Before I Sleep". I'm pretty sure the combo of John & Zelenka could come up with a better plan than locking Elizabeth in a closet for 10,000 years so that she can rotate the batteries a few times.
[identity profile] toomuchplor.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 23rd, 2008 10:47 pm (UTC)
The time-traveling AU I've never seen written (but want to) is the one where John, Elizabeth, and Zelenka all survive the crashed time ship in "Before I Sleep". I'm pretty sure the combo of John & Zelenka could come up with a better plan than locking Elizabeth in a closet for 10,000 years so that she can rotate the batteries a few times.

I have to rewatch that, because that could totally be the set-up for my humans-are-pets story here. Haha!
[identity profile] eleveninches.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 23rd, 2008 09:04 pm (UTC)
It was a CAGE.

I'm actually writing a time-travel fic right now. Well, sort of now; I need the end of the season in order to finish it. Rodney and John accidentally go back and time and kill all the Wraith, and they're travelling back and forth in time to fix it.
[identity profile] toomuchplor.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 23rd, 2008 09:06 pm (UTC)
Hahaha... that's awesome, definitely looking forward to it. Well, maybe I'll have to take a crack at this after all. I'll call it an homage to your writing style, which should keep people from realizing that I'm totally cribbing off of you.
[identity profile] eleveninches.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 23rd, 2008 09:09 pm (UTC)
Ahaha, I'm not sure it's cribbing off of me if you're the one who came up with the idea.
[identity profile] toomuchplor.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 23rd, 2008 09:16 pm (UTC)
It is when an Ancient calls John a 'homo' in the same fond tone of voice we say 'kitty cat'.
[identity profile] eleveninches.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 23rd, 2008 09:18 pm (UTC)
*single tear of joy*
[identity profile] amberlynne.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 23rd, 2008 09:21 pm (UTC)
*snort* I just adore the way your mind works.

I was thinking about the fanon version of John that communicates so amazingly with Atlantis during Quarantine because the ep pretty much Jossed that idea literally out the window. I mean, really, John should have been able to just stroke her walls a few times (dirty!) and everything would have been okay if he really was that in tune. Unless, of course, they'd been fighting and that's the real reason She shut herself down which is something a blatant hussy like her would so do.

The entire expedition has been bunking up in the children's boarding school part of the city, which is why all their beds are 2 inches long.

God, that would explain SO MUCH!!
[identity profile] toomuchplor.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 23rd, 2008 09:24 pm (UTC)
I haven't seen Quarantine yet but it sounds like it'll take the John/Atlantis shippers down a peg. *g*
[identity profile] amberlynne.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 23rd, 2008 09:25 pm (UTC)
Oh, dear. Sorry! *cringes* I hope I didn't give anything too critical away. *L*
[identity profile] toomuchplor.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 23rd, 2008 09:27 pm (UTC)
Nah, no worries! I'm not really a spoiler-phobe, though I don't seek them out. I'm usually at least a week behind the current ep (right now it's 2, actually) because [livejournal.com profile] iywkim makes me wait until she can watch it with me. And we've both been busy the last little while. The last 2 eps are sitting, all neglected and shiny on my external HD. Sigh.
[identity profile] amberlynne.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 23rd, 2008 09:29 pm (UTC)
Phew! I would hate to have ruined anything for you. *g* You both should get unbusy soonish because of how it was awesome and must be experienced to be believed. ;)
[identity profile] toomuchplor.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 23rd, 2008 09:30 pm (UTC)
I have faith in my SGA, never fear! In my SV days, [livejournal.com profile] iykwim often had to talk me down out of a sort of preemptive hysteria about how completely awful the episode would be. I don't have that kind of anxiety about SGA, which is why I don't mind waiting, strangely enough.
[identity profile] amberlynne.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 23rd, 2008 09:35 pm (UTC)
Ha! I feel sort of the same way. I mean, I feel a little bit of the "writers plz don't suck" sometimes, but I get so much of the stuff I really love from the fic that I don't worry about the show Jossing any of it too much, which is nice.
[identity profile] califmole.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 23rd, 2008 09:23 pm (UTC)
The back in time one would be awesome!

4) They figure out that all their quarters are child-proofed so they can't get to the cool toys.

5) John isn't related to the Ancients-- he has the genetic signature of one of the ancient's pets, like a big goofy labrador retriever that had its genetic structure tampered with just enough so that it could operate ancient toys (the equivalent of being able to dispense its own food and operate the doggie door).
[identity profile] toomuchplor.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 23rd, 2008 09:26 pm (UTC)
Ahaha... yes! Actually, it'd be even better if the Ancients were all, "OH MY GOD HE HAS THE ATA GENE" and were just *grossed out* because that meant that one of *them* had bred with one of the *humans* which would be like, like -- like making a weird camel-goldfish chimera. It's bestiality! The Ancients who wound up on Earth were clearly very hard up for glowy non-corporeal action if they started *humping* the local *primitive peoples*.
[identity profile] califmole.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 23rd, 2008 10:09 pm (UTC)
They thought that they'd spayed/neutered all the pets and are appalled to realize that someone was a bad pet owner and these things kept breeding after they'd gone...leading to our dear friend John.

[identity profile] toomuchplor.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 23rd, 2008 10:13 pm (UTC)
Yeah, not to mention someone *totally* must have gotten glowy with their human cum dachshund! Gross!

It's like when you get two gerbils and then find out much too late that they weren't brothers and they weren't 'wrestling' and now -- your little wire cage is crawling with vermin.
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[personal profile] aurora wrote:
Jan. 23rd, 2008 09:55 pm (UTC)
3) The puddle jumpers are actually not fighter shuttles. They are, in fact, Ancient yellow school buses. The cool fighter shuttles are over in the east wing where the expedition hasn't looked yet.
ZOMG I WANT THAT! (And also the one where he busts his brains over Sudoku.)
[identity profile] toomuchplor.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 23rd, 2008 10:14 pm (UTC)
Hahaha... John would be so *deflated* to see the little route signs on the front of the jumpers, and the uniformed dumpy lackeys behind the flight controls, and the shuffling seniors queuing for the 1357 to Athos.
[identity profile] the-drifter.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 23rd, 2008 10:02 pm (UTC)
Really, I'm just all over the idea of John Sheppard: Kind of Challenged. You know, where's the fic where we find out that John may have tested into Mensa, but he also can't spell for shit? Or that he's got a good sense of direction and pathway memory ... but can't actually remember which way is right and which was is left?

Also, while it's widely acknowledged that John is really socially impaired, the standard trope seems to be that it's because he's So Tortured By His Past / Harsh Military Brat Childhood / Sekrit Traumas. I want to read John Sheppard: Home-Schooled in B.F.Nowhere, Alaska, By Vegan Unitarians. Seriously, how much would it explain if John basically grew up alone in the woods with his folks until he was 18, watching Nickolodeon and MASH reruns and old movie musicals and desperately, desperately wishing that his parents would just let him be normal?
[identity profile] toomuchplor.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 23rd, 2008 10:26 pm (UTC)
John Sheppard: Kind of Challenged

And that would be the title of the story! *nods*

John may have tested into Mensa, but he also can't spell for shit

Oh, I can see it now: fade in on Rodney's horrified transfixed expression, pull back to take in the fact that he's staring at his laptop screen, blinking disbelievingly at the following e-mail:

Hye Rodney, jsut tout id check what your doin 2nite mayve we shoudl watch the new bat-man flick]. -j

And, later:

"That's what I wrote! See, 'I should of done it.'"

"Should HAVE," Rodney articulated, eyes bugging.

"Yeah, should OF," John replied, blankly.

And, later still:

"How many 'g's in 'signifigant'?" asked John, pen in mouth. "I always forget that."

Rodney wept quietly.

he's got a good sense of direction and pathway memory ... but can't actually remember which way is right and which was is left?

Bwa! I have a sudden mental image of John pausing in his path offworld, trying to be all subtle as he looks down at his outstretched hands to see which one makes an L.

I want to read John Sheppard: Home-Schooled in B.F.Nowhere, Alaska, By Vegan Unitarians. Seriously, how much would it explain if John basically grew up alone in the woods with his folks until he was 18, watching Nickolodeon and MASH reruns and old movie musicals and desperately, desperately wishing that his parents would just let him be normal?<

OMG, yes. And he totally joined the Air Force, not out of some misguided rebellion (because, as his parents said, "Follow your passion, Skye!" -- and he totally changed his name as soon as he turned 18) but because the idea of that level of regulated normalcy just sounded so damned *appealing* to him.
[identity profile] morebliss.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 23rd, 2008 11:32 pm (UTC)
I have a sudden mental image of John pausing in his path offworld, trying to be all subtle as he looks down at his outstretched hands to see which one makes an L.

OMG - YES!! And that's the real reason he wears a wrist band. It's his 'cheat sheet'.
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[identity profile] monanotlisa.livejournal.com wrote:
Feb. 1st, 2008 11:33 pm (UTC)
I love you both.

(And will cheer on any fic-writing effort! With icons if need/want be.)
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[identity profile] kyuuketsukirui.livejournal.com wrote:
Feb. 2nd, 2008 03:28 am (UTC)
Hell, I'd like to read the fic where John is "socially impaired" because some people just don't like touching or talking about emotions and it has nothing to do with any sort of traumatic past.
[identity profile] linabean.livejournal.com wrote:
Feb. 7th, 2008 07:14 am (UTC)
John Sheppard: Kind of Challenged
Heya! I saw this thread late, but just wanted to say how dear to my heart such versions of John are. It's why I'm so sad, for example, TPTB missed such a great opportunity with The Real World episode (http://linabean.livejournal.com/36299.html).
[identity profile] the-drifter.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 23rd, 2008 10:08 pm (UTC)
And of course, the same goes for everyone else, too. What if when Rodney's piano teacher said, "Your playing is clinical," what he meant was, "Excellent muscle memory only goes so far when you're totally tone-deaf"? What if Teyla's leadership style among the Athosians actually was summoning people who disagreed with her for a "sparring lesson" and then being really condescending while she beat the crap out of them, and they were all so, so glad when she went to Atlantis? What if Ronon ... well, gosh, it'd be nice if I could come up with something, but the writers have pretty much phoned in every part of his characterization that can't be summed up by "he runs fast, fights good, is tortured, and speaks in short sentences." So I guess the best I can do there is that Ronon actually was a Wraith-worshipper until he and his girlfriend the Queen broke up, and he really hates the Wraith not because they slaughtered his planet but because it was such an ugly break-up? (I mean, he'd have valid cause either way -- there's claiming the whole CD collection, and then there's making your ex a sport animal.)
[identity profile] toomuchplor.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 23rd, 2008 10:33 pm (UTC)
What if when Rodney's piano teacher said, "Your playing is clinical," what he meant was, "Excellent muscle memory only goes so far when you're totally tone-deaf"?

Rodney's piano teacher was letting him down EASY. Rodney had been playing and practicing dutifully for years and was still stuck in the backwaters of Book One of Leila Fletcher's piano course. If the woman had to hear him slam his way through 'In my little birch canoe' at one more recital, she was seriously going to lose her shit!

These are all brilliant.

What if Ronon ... well, gosh, it'd be nice if I could come up with something, but the writers have pretty much phoned in every part of his characterization that can't be summed up by "he runs fast, fights good, is tortured, and speaks in short sentences."

It's probably obvious that my favorite way to fuck with Ronon's characterization is to make him a secret genius who just happens to like kicking ass. But what I really want to read is the story where Ronon is a gigantic mama's boy kind of pansy, like Buster from Arrested Development. He didn't mean to join the Satedan Army, but he was tired of all his myriad older sisters calling him 'sweet' and making him hold their purses when they went shopping. Also, his mom sent the best boxes of cookies out of all the army moms and when other soldiers gazed longingly at pictures of wives and girlfriends, Ronon hauled out a photo of his mom and rubbed his big index finger over her face, sighing.
[identity profile] dovil.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 23rd, 2008 10:08 pm (UTC)
The entire expedition has been bunking up in the children's boarding school part of the city, which is why all their beds are 2 inches long.

Since we've seen the Ancients and they're not of the midget persuassion I think this can be the only rational explanation. Either that or they have spines that can bend in on themselves - flexi-spine, for all your tiny bed needs!

I think the Ancients just sat around in their floating cities getting stoned a lot and the Wraith are just a horrible genetic experiment melding Bob Marley and Ann Coulter - an angry, angry person with the over riding urge to snack.
[identity profile] toomuchplor.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 23rd, 2008 10:36 pm (UTC)
Either that or they have spines that can bend in on themselves - flexi-spine, for all your tiny bed needs!

Ha! Or!

Or, there's this little button on the underside of the bed that you press when you're going to sleep and the entire bed unfolds out of its 'daytime sitting area' size into an enormous king-sized sex-'n'-sleep area. John's jaw would drop and the Ancients would be all, "surely your people are aware of the Sleep Expansion function of our beds?" and John would be all, "We like to cuddle, that's all."
[identity profile] dovil.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 23rd, 2008 10:47 pm (UTC)
Hahaha! John's all, I have excessively sweaty feet, my legs must be at least half a metre outside of the bed at all times.

The set designers were really going for the idea that all the characters had molded plastic bits, because there's no way any shenanigans were going on in beds that small. The first time someone rolled you'd be off the bed and bruised where things don't want bruising.
[identity profile] toomuchplor.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 23rd, 2008 10:49 pm (UTC)
The set designers were really going for the idea that all the characters had molded plastic bits, because there's no way any shenanigans were going on in beds that small.

On a tangent, this only serves to reinforce my opinion that in Pegasus, people don't have sex in beds. That's where you *sleep*. Duh.

In fact, Ronon doesn't think you should even do it face to face. That's just unnecessarily personal. Who would want somebody watching you while you did *that*?
[identity profile] dovil.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 23rd, 2008 10:52 pm (UTC)
*nods* That's why when ever I want to knock boots with my significant other he hangs around the house while I drive off to a neighbouring town. I mean lets not get clinging and invade personal space about it all!

I really, really hope they gave the tables in the mess hall a good wipe down.
[identity profile] toomuchplor.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 23rd, 2008 11:02 pm (UTC)
Hee! Fact #97240 that John learns while he is an Ancient Pet:

The Ancient whistled impatiently when John made as though to turn towards the mess hall. "This way, Ioannes!" she said, beckoning by tapping her thigh.

"I thought you said we were getting lunch!" said John, eyes wide.

The Ancient smiled indulgently and pulled at his wristband, hauling him in the opposite direction. "Yes, but you were going towards the Copulatorium, Ioannes darling."

"The.." John said, trailing off.

"The place of coitus," clarified the Ancient with an exceedingly patient expression. "Surely you noticed that the room is filled with nothing but Rutting Platforms? It is hardly a fit place for dining!"

"Rutting Platforms?" John repeated faintly. "We thought they were. Um. Tables."

"Why would you put your food so high off the ground?" chuckled the Ancient. "It doesn't need to be at waist height for eating. Unless," and she suddenly looked a bit green, "unless your people are performing coitus with your meals?"

"God no!" John blurted, shocked.

"Oh, well then," said the Ancient, smiling again, "let's go and eat."

And she led him into what the Atlantis expedition had always used as a public showering room.
[identity profile] dovil.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 23rd, 2008 11:08 pm (UTC)
Hahaha!

Unless," and she suddenly looked a bit green, "unless your people are performing coitus with your meals?"

"No, that's just the Welsh."

And if I'm booed of the stage for that, I think that's only fitting.
[identity profile] toomuchplor.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 23rd, 2008 11:13 pm (UTC)
Aw, the Ancients think of the humans like we think of dogs -- like we're all just sort of bounding around stupidly on these planets, eating on Rutting Platforms and using city buses to fight overwhelming evil and curling up to sleep on tiny Ancient sofas when we're all tuckered out.
[identity profile] anashi.livejournal.com wrote:
Jan. 24th, 2008 05:12 pm (UTC)
"As I told eleveninches once, what I really want to write is the one where John isn't just weirdly good at manipulating Ancient technology -- he's actually *trans-specied*. He's an Ancient trapped in a stupid human body! He's tragically genetically queered! He longs for gray jumpsuits and shifty scientific ethics and the chance to play The Sims with whole human civilizations!"

You...you story-tease! This would be like Christmas for me, this story.

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